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	<title>Comments on: The Rumpus Oral History Project— Lorelei Lee</title>
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		<title>By: MarieGrace</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/an-oral-history-of-kink/comment-page-1/#comment-171725</link>
		<dc:creator>MarieGrace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Sep 2011 20:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fact-check from a former Catholic girl: &quot;Immaculate conception&quot; refers to the idea of Mary being born without sin (because only a girl/woman free of the stain of Original Sin would be suitable to bear the Savior), not to Jesus being created without sexual intercourse. Which is not to take anything away from the blessed beginnings of Ms. Lorelei.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact-check from a former Catholic girl: &#8220;Immaculate conception&#8221; refers to the idea of Mary being born without sin (because only a girl/woman free of the stain of Original Sin would be suitable to bear the Savior), not to Jesus being created without sexual intercourse. Which is not to take anything away from the blessed beginnings of Ms. Lorelei.</p>
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		<title>By: pAUL</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/an-oral-history-of-kink/comment-page-1/#comment-144146</link>
		<dc:creator>pAUL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 19:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lorelei Lee I really enjoy the way you write, and in the end when you said Im just a kid, every word fixed between. I cant denied i love the image of you on my computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lorelei Lee I really enjoy the way you write, and in the end when you said Im just a kid, every word fixed between. I cant denied i love the image of you on my computer.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/an-oral-history-of-kink/comment-page-1/#comment-25111</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 15:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like Stephen rewrote Lorelei&#039;s story in his own words.  The style is ALL Stephen.  Which is great for him because he has a distinctive style but too bad for her because I would like to know how she talks what words or patters or ums or ehs or you knows or rights or whatever verbal tics she uses to make her voice her own. 

Lorelei Lee is the name of Marilyn Monroe&#039;s character in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes...the book is by Anita Loos.  It&#039;s about women trying to find themselves with and without men.

We&#039;re all trying to do that.

I dont think Lorelei&#039;s story is all that interesting or unique.  Can we make any ties between her growing up not knowing her real father and her desire for positive attention, especially from men?  maybe... it&#039;s a little trite but that doesn&#039;t make it illegitimate. 

The thing is, I dont have ANY feelings about her from this piece.  She doesn&#039;t have feelings here; the closest she comes to having feelings is when she hears her father is on the phone and then when she breaks down after another performer is brought into the house, and maybe when she tours with the sex workers art show.  There&#039;s some interesting stuff about her starting to have sex for personal pleasure, not for money or attention... that should be explored more.  That&#039;s an experience most people haven&#039;t had and it would be interesting to know more about it.

Sorry, I just think the piece is weak and that you, Stephen, should do better to tell this person&#039;s story.  Stop being a just-the-facts-ma&#039;am-type journalist and give me a feeling ... right now I just feel empty and I hate to think that the emptiness is how I should feel about this person who is clearly a whole, feeling, thinking living being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like Stephen rewrote Lorelei&#8217;s story in his own words.  The style is ALL Stephen.  Which is great for him because he has a distinctive style but too bad for her because I would like to know how she talks what words or patters or ums or ehs or you knows or rights or whatever verbal tics she uses to make her voice her own. </p>
<p>Lorelei Lee is the name of Marilyn Monroe&#8217;s character in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes&#8230;the book is by Anita Loos.  It&#8217;s about women trying to find themselves with and without men.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re all trying to do that.</p>
<p>I dont think Lorelei&#8217;s story is all that interesting or unique.  Can we make any ties between her growing up not knowing her real father and her desire for positive attention, especially from men?  maybe&#8230; it&#8217;s a little trite but that doesn&#8217;t make it illegitimate. </p>
<p>The thing is, I dont have ANY feelings about her from this piece.  She doesn&#8217;t have feelings here; the closest she comes to having feelings is when she hears her father is on the phone and then when she breaks down after another performer is brought into the house, and maybe when she tours with the sex workers art show.  There&#8217;s some interesting stuff about her starting to have sex for personal pleasure, not for money or attention&#8230; that should be explored more.  That&#8217;s an experience most people haven&#8217;t had and it would be interesting to know more about it.</p>
<p>Sorry, I just think the piece is weak and that you, Stephen, should do better to tell this person&#8217;s story.  Stop being a just-the-facts-ma&#8217;am-type journalist and give me a feeling &#8230; right now I just feel empty and I hate to think that the emptiness is how I should feel about this person who is clearly a whole, feeling, thinking living being.</p>
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		<title>By: cathkinpark</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/an-oral-history-of-kink/comment-page-1/#comment-10167</link>
		<dc:creator>cathkinpark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 09:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Lorelie Lee is the most beautiful woman in the world and as a domina she comes across as number one too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Lorelie Lee is the most beautiful woman in the world and as a domina she comes across as number one too.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak Smith</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/an-oral-history-of-kink/comment-page-1/#comment-9564</link>
		<dc:creator>Zak Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 06:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coby:
Actually, she is going to school and is not quitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coby:<br />
Actually, she is going to school and is not quitting.</p>
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		<title>By: Coby_Johns</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/an-oral-history-of-kink/comment-page-1/#comment-9038</link>
		<dc:creator>Coby_Johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She quit porn this year and is going to grad scool back East. She&#039;s obviously burnt out from porn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She quit porn this year and is going to grad scool back East. She&#8217;s obviously burnt out from porn.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh you&#039;ve sure got me there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you&#8217;ve sure got me there.</p>
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		<title>By: Amstutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amstutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zak you are proof positive of the f*cked up porn star stereotype. I ahve no idea what teh hell you are talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zak you are proof positive of the f*cked up porn star stereotype. I ahve no idea what teh hell you are talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Zak Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zak Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amstutz--
You&#039;re still not answering any of the real objections brought up about any of your big-fat-broad-brush comments.

You talked a lot of shit.  Own up and defend your position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amstutz&#8211;<br />
You&#8217;re still not answering any of the real objections brought up about any of your big-fat-broad-brush comments.</p>
<p>You talked a lot of shit.  Own up and defend your position.</p>
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		<title>By: amstutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>amstutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another porn star taking me to task for my comments? My God, what is this a conspiracy? Okay, Zak, you and Judy win. I amend what I say to the following: &quot;Lorelei trying so hard to make it sound good, just shows how bad it is, UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BE ANOTHER PORN STAR!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another porn star taking me to task for my comments? My God, what is this a conspiracy? Okay, Zak, you and Judy win. I amend what I say to the following: &#8220;Lorelei trying so hard to make it sound good, just shows how bad it is, UNLESS YOU HAPPEN TO BE ANOTHER PORN STAR!&#8221;</p>
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