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	<title>Comments on: SWINGING MODERN SOUNDS: On Repetition</title>
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		<title>By: unreliable narrator</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/swinging-modern-sounds-on-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-1362</link>
		<dc:creator>unreliable narrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, and here I&#039;ll confess that I was reminded of this commencement address a few days ago by a wonderful member of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thehowlingfantods.com/dfw/wallace-l.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wallace-l list&lt;/a&gt;, one Mr. Scharf. Though I somehow felt it was my own discovery; I guess because I took a class with him (Joseph) before he died; and because I&#039;ve always loved that particular speech. Of course Brodsky was probably the least boring person I&#039;ve ever known—though himself professionally (maybe even clinically) bored.

It&#039;s fun to think about whether boredom and repetition have some kind of allopathic/homeopathic relationship; whether it&#039;s asymptotic. Is the psychological Saraha inversely proportional to, say, one&#039;s desperate need for Stein or Ligeti?

It&#039;s also Tim Ramick&#039;s fault that I first watched Martin Arnold in juxtaposition with Chris Marker&#039;s &lt;i&gt;La Jetée&lt;/i&gt;, an affecting exercise which I highly recommend. The two together leave the viewer with an unsettled, vertiginous sense of linearity, not unlike reading &lt;i&gt;Time’s Arrow&lt;/i&gt; and then being unable to shake the visceral conviction that time is flowing in the wrong direction, i.e., forward rather than backward.

And now I will stop defacing this fine post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, and here I&#8217;ll confess that I was reminded of this commencement address a few days ago by a wonderful member of the <a href="http://www.thehowlingfantods.com/dfw/wallace-l.html" rel="nofollow">wallace-l list</a>, one Mr. Scharf. Though I somehow felt it was my own discovery; I guess because I took a class with him (Joseph) before he died; and because I&#8217;ve always loved that particular speech. Of course Brodsky was probably the least boring person I&#8217;ve ever known—though himself professionally (maybe even clinically) bored.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s fun to think about whether boredom and repetition have some kind of allopathic/homeopathic relationship; whether it&#8217;s asymptotic. Is the psychological Saraha inversely proportional to, say, one&#8217;s desperate need for Stein or Ligeti?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also Tim Ramick&#8217;s fault that I first watched Martin Arnold in juxtaposition with Chris Marker&#8217;s <i>La Jetée</i>, an affecting exercise which I highly recommend. The two together leave the viewer with an unsettled, vertiginous sense of linearity, not unlike reading <i>Time’s Arrow</i> and then being unable to shake the visceral conviction that time is flowing in the wrong direction, i.e., forward rather than backward.</p>
<p>And now I will stop defacing this fine post.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Moody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 03:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L., the Brodsky is beautiful! Just beautiful! Thanks to both of you, L. and Unreliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L., the Brodsky is beautiful! Just beautiful! Thanks to both of you, L. and Unreliable.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 01:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Along similar lines, this (which the unreliable narrator just turned me on to), from Joseph Brodsky&#039;s Dartmouth College commencement address on boredom (&quot;. . . a complex phenomenon and by and large a product of REPETITION.&quot;)

&quot;There is yet another way out of boredom, however. Not a better one, perhaps, from your point of view, and not necessarily secure, but straight and inexpensive. When hit by boredom, let yourself be crushed by it; submerge, hit bottom . . . . The idea here is to exact a full look at the worst. The reason boredom deserves such scrutiny is that it represents pure, undiluted time in all its repetitive, redundant, monotonous splendor.

&quot;Boredom is your window on the properties of time that one tends to ignore to the likely peril of one&#039;s mental equilibrium. It is your window on time&#039;s infinity. Once this window opens, don&#039;t try to shut it; on the contrary, throw it wide open. For boredom speaks the language of time, and it teaches you the most valuable lesson of your life: the lesson of your utter insignificance. . .&quot;

http://lists.extropy.org/pipermail/paleopsych/2005-May/003252.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Along similar lines, this (which the unreliable narrator just turned me on to), from Joseph Brodsky&#8217;s Dartmouth College commencement address on boredom (&#8220;. . . a complex phenomenon and by and large a product of REPETITION.&#8221;)</p>
<p>&#8220;There is yet another way out of boredom, however. Not a better one, perhaps, from your point of view, and not necessarily secure, but straight and inexpensive. When hit by boredom, let yourself be crushed by it; submerge, hit bottom . . . . The idea here is to exact a full look at the worst. The reason boredom deserves such scrutiny is that it represents pure, undiluted time in all its repetitive, redundant, monotonous splendor.</p>
<p>&#8220;Boredom is your window on the properties of time that one tends to ignore to the likely peril of one&#8217;s mental equilibrium. It is your window on time&#8217;s infinity. Once this window opens, don&#8217;t try to shut it; on the contrary, throw it wide open. For boredom speaks the language of time, and it teaches you the most valuable lesson of your life: the lesson of your utter insignificance. . .&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: unreliable narrator</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2009/02/swinging-modern-sounds-on-repetition/comment-page-1/#comment-1326</link>
		<dc:creator>unreliable narrator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 16:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for writing on these thought-provoking and criminally overlooked artists, and for isolating one of the threads which connects all three.

As a longtime fan of Ramick (and, thanks to him, Martin Arnold), I&#039;d still never had the nerve to take in any Orthrelm for exactly the reasons you give here. Today I finally listened and am glad I did. It&#039;s immediately obvious that Barr is working musically with the equivalent of what Arnold does with visual slices; and while I can imagine that many listeners would find his micro-mutating lines far too mathy to offer much in the way of emotional payoff (e.g. sentimentality?), others will find repeated rewards in, well, repeated encounters. As is invariably the case with Ramick&#039;s work.

Concentration is a great pleasure, perhaps one of our few remaining. Thank you again for writing in praise of this particular kind of tedium, and for drawing our (scattered, fractured, dissociated) attention to its practitioners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for writing on these thought-provoking and criminally overlooked artists, and for isolating one of the threads which connects all three.</p>
<p>As a longtime fan of Ramick (and, thanks to him, Martin Arnold), I&#8217;d still never had the nerve to take in any Orthrelm for exactly the reasons you give here. Today I finally listened and am glad I did. It&#8217;s immediately obvious that Barr is working musically with the equivalent of what Arnold does with visual slices; and while I can imagine that many listeners would find his micro-mutating lines far too mathy to offer much in the way of emotional payoff (e.g. sentimentality?), others will find repeated rewards in, well, repeated encounters. As is invariably the case with Ramick&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>Concentration is a great pleasure, perhaps one of our few remaining. Thank you again for writing in praise of this particular kind of tedium, and for drawing our (scattered, fractured, dissociated) attention to its practitioners.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Boudinot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Boudinot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 19:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very tedious post--in a good way! Fans of found footage transformed into something new might like the DVD &quot;Lyrical Nitrate.&quot; It&#039;s decayed film shoved into a new narrative context. I guess this is only tangentially related to this post, but it&#039;s worth checking out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very tedious post&#8211;in a good way! Fans of found footage transformed into something new might like the DVD &#8220;Lyrical Nitrate.&#8221; It&#8217;s decayed film shoved into a new narrative context. I guess this is only tangentially related to this post, but it&#8217;s worth checking out.</p>
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		<title>By: enronmoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>enronmoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s stuff like this that keeps me coming back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s stuff like this that keeps me coming back.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was too obvious for you to mention, I&#039;m sure, but I always loved that The Fall managed to assert, wittily, that repetition is essential while simultaneously enacting its pleasures: &quot;The three Rs: repetition, repetition, repetition.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was too obvious for you to mention, I&#8217;m sure, but I always loved that The Fall managed to assert, wittily, that repetition is essential while simultaneously enacting its pleasures: &#8220;The three Rs: repetition, repetition, repetition.&#8221;</p>
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