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		<title>By: Antonia Crane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Antonia Crane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 07:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the film and think Chelsea was the perfect somber art piece in a bleak world. I thought her character was elusive, bright and realistic. Her immaturity made her more endearing, especially when the new girl (who looked just like her but more bubbly) showed up with her client. My only problem with the movie was her love interest, Chris, the obviously gay personal trainer who was a fraud from the get.  The film showed vulnerability by showing the opposite. Sex workers fall prey to the fantasy too and Chelsea was that girl.
Too young to be sophisticated, she played at being sophisticated while falling for the fantasy with her numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the film and think Chelsea was the perfect somber art piece in a bleak world. I thought her character was elusive, bright and realistic. Her immaturity made her more endearing, especially when the new girl (who looked just like her but more bubbly) showed up with her client. My only problem with the movie was her love interest, Chris, the obviously gay personal trainer who was a fraud from the get.  The film showed vulnerability by showing the opposite. Sex workers fall prey to the fantasy too and Chelsea was that girl.<br />
Too young to be sophisticated, she played at being sophisticated while falling for the fantasy with her numbers.</p>
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		<title>By: velcrolio</title>
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		<dc:creator>velcrolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 01:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a very experienced john&#039;s point of view:

The movie was surprisingly well versed on the trade, at least at that high level. We see Chelsea shopping for shoes, and outside is her &#039;rival&#039; girl with one of her guys. Sure, what we see is that flicker of jealousy, but what I saw was a guy with a girl on the street looking at shoes. Who imagines the joy a guy gets from being with a girl in other places than bed? The scene in which Chelsea is confused about the behavior of her client was also well done--girls are always a bit worried about small changes in behavior. 

The other pretty &#039;inside&#039; thing was the website reviewer douchebag. He nails her in the review, but who in the audience even understood what was going on? The film was pretty smart in that portion, because a negative review kills a girl&#039;s pysche, even if it&#039;s a place nobody visits. It also struck me because I&#039;m a very active reviewer of girls. The quid pro quo of a reviewer doing positive reviews for freebies has actually happened to me, but not intentionally, and not overtly. From my experience, I had to smile at the notion that anyone would use the phrase &#039;flat affect&#039; and the rest of that purple prose to describe a girl. Even among the high-paying customers, semi-literacy is rampant. What you really get is subjectless sentences: &#039;Saw Chelsea, she&#039;s not as hot as you&#039;d think. I pay a lot, expect a lot,&#039; etc. 

But what bugged me about the film was the guys. Yes, most guys are just as cardboard as the film depicts. But the girlfriend experience, for a guy, is MUCH more than anything the character of Chelsea gets to explore. Judging by the fellow johns I&#039;ve talked to, about 10% of men legitimately fall in love, revers the sequence of innocent attraction&gt;sex so that it goes sex&gt;innocent attraction. For them (I should say &#039;us&#039; because I&#039;m one, the lasting scene is not the obsessive, kvetching, grasping, bragging guys who populate most of the film, but the rival girl on the street with Chelsea&#039;s former client, who&#039;s enjoying the exceptional fun of the illusion of love with a beautiful woman, in public, doing mundane things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a very experienced john&#8217;s point of view:</p>
<p>The movie was surprisingly well versed on the trade, at least at that high level. We see Chelsea shopping for shoes, and outside is her &#8216;rival&#8217; girl with one of her guys. Sure, what we see is that flicker of jealousy, but what I saw was a guy with a girl on the street looking at shoes. Who imagines the joy a guy gets from being with a girl in other places than bed? The scene in which Chelsea is confused about the behavior of her client was also well done&#8211;girls are always a bit worried about small changes in behavior. </p>
<p>The other pretty &#8216;inside&#8217; thing was the website reviewer douchebag. He nails her in the review, but who in the audience even understood what was going on? The film was pretty smart in that portion, because a negative review kills a girl&#8217;s pysche, even if it&#8217;s a place nobody visits. It also struck me because I&#8217;m a very active reviewer of girls. The quid pro quo of a reviewer doing positive reviews for freebies has actually happened to me, but not intentionally, and not overtly. From my experience, I had to smile at the notion that anyone would use the phrase &#8216;flat affect&#8217; and the rest of that purple prose to describe a girl. Even among the high-paying customers, semi-literacy is rampant. What you really get is subjectless sentences: &#8216;Saw Chelsea, she&#8217;s not as hot as you&#8217;d think. I pay a lot, expect a lot,&#8217; etc. </p>
<p>But what bugged me about the film was the guys. Yes, most guys are just as cardboard as the film depicts. But the girlfriend experience, for a guy, is MUCH more than anything the character of Chelsea gets to explore. Judging by the fellow johns I&#8217;ve talked to, about 10% of men legitimately fall in love, revers the sequence of innocent attraction&gt;sex so that it goes sex&gt;innocent attraction. For them (I should say &#8216;us&#8217; because I&#8217;m one, the lasting scene is not the obsessive, kvetching, grasping, bragging guys who populate most of the film, but the rival girl on the street with Chelsea&#8217;s former client, who&#8217;s enjoying the exceptional fun of the illusion of love with a beautiful woman, in public, doing mundane things.</p>
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		<title>By: KonradProduct</title>
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		<dc:creator>KonradProduct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, as a male sex worker, I saw TGE yesterday afternoon. It seems a movie that&#039;s filtered, more than most, through subjectivity: what people bring into the theater ... past / current lives as sex workers, customers of sex workers, and vast terrain of body image and economic status masquerading as self-worth inbetween. And a theater - dark, images flickering on the wall/cave - what a place to cathartically live out one&#039;s life.

Many - many - people have comment on Sasha&#039;s &quot;flat&quot; affect (in fact, that&#039;s one of the diss&#039; lobbed at her by the awful website reviewer). But her voice, drained of inflection, noncommittal in the extreme, seemed the most accurate element of her hooking skills. Her voice presented her as hooker-as-therapist: a tabula rosa upon which customers wrote their desires, etc. She listened and, when she did respond, her monosyllabia was exactly what the set-up called / calls for. 

Photography is the most reductive rendering whore/sex workers ie., what you see is what you get (I disagree.) What the movie crucially left out is the tactile experience which, in my experience at least, is the essentially aural nature of sex work (you are what you say - or don&#039;t - as much or more than how you look). The journalist character articulated it best one of the restaurant interview scenes (towards the end) when he ran down Chelsea&#039;s calculated - and appealing - presentation: the hair, the look, the everything she is just by being. 

What I found more difficult (impossible) to buy was her willingness to walk through the back office door of the self-styled website reviewer: anyone with her book would have taken one look at the furniture store, turned and left. She was too seasoned a girl to ever buy into that b.s. And if she did, the website dude was way too much of a buffoon. She - maybe this is just me - would never have let him onto the field, much less played.

Also, the movie - and this is my subjectivity coming through- seemed more gay, notionally, than anything else. Heterosexual relationships wither and die when one partner inevitably becomes mommy. I think this is why gay relationships are so infuriating to so many because an agreement, like the one between Sasha (cut off the long hair and she&#039;s looks more like a transgirl than a woman ie., slim hipped, the extremely self-conscious poses in the last scene) and her pretty boy boyfriend (who looks like a great trainer). Gay relationships, at least the ones I&#039;ve been in and observed, generally allow one (or both) to step out, fuck around, whatever. 

The movie - as I read it - was retro in its contrarian take on the sort of enforced monogamy put forth by Gabriel Rotello in the late 90&#039;s (and now writ as Prop 8, etc.) and which currently has so much currency in the gay community.  Still, through the character&#039;s lives, I saw the value of companionship and in the impossibility of monogamy. 

A nuanced, evocative film. That would be the review of this **Natural Born Hooker***</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, as a male sex worker, I saw TGE yesterday afternoon. It seems a movie that&#8217;s filtered, more than most, through subjectivity: what people bring into the theater &#8230; past / current lives as sex workers, customers of sex workers, and vast terrain of body image and economic status masquerading as self-worth inbetween. And a theater &#8211; dark, images flickering on the wall/cave &#8211; what a place to cathartically live out one&#8217;s life.</p>
<p>Many &#8211; many &#8211; people have comment on Sasha&#8217;s &#8220;flat&#8221; affect (in fact, that&#8217;s one of the diss&#8217; lobbed at her by the awful website reviewer). But her voice, drained of inflection, noncommittal in the extreme, seemed the most accurate element of her hooking skills. Her voice presented her as hooker-as-therapist: a tabula rosa upon which customers wrote their desires, etc. She listened and, when she did respond, her monosyllabia was exactly what the set-up called / calls for. </p>
<p>Photography is the most reductive rendering whore/sex workers ie., what you see is what you get (I disagree.) What the movie crucially left out is the tactile experience which, in my experience at least, is the essentially aural nature of sex work (you are what you say &#8211; or don&#8217;t &#8211; as much or more than how you look). The journalist character articulated it best one of the restaurant interview scenes (towards the end) when he ran down Chelsea&#8217;s calculated &#8211; and appealing &#8211; presentation: the hair, the look, the everything she is just by being. </p>
<p>What I found more difficult (impossible) to buy was her willingness to walk through the back office door of the self-styled website reviewer: anyone with her book would have taken one look at the furniture store, turned and left. She was too seasoned a girl to ever buy into that b.s. And if she did, the website dude was way too much of a buffoon. She &#8211; maybe this is just me &#8211; would never have let him onto the field, much less played.</p>
<p>Also, the movie &#8211; and this is my subjectivity coming through- seemed more gay, notionally, than anything else. Heterosexual relationships wither and die when one partner inevitably becomes mommy. I think this is why gay relationships are so infuriating to so many because an agreement, like the one between Sasha (cut off the long hair and she&#8217;s looks more like a transgirl than a woman ie., slim hipped, the extremely self-conscious poses in the last scene) and her pretty boy boyfriend (who looks like a great trainer). Gay relationships, at least the ones I&#8217;ve been in and observed, generally allow one (or both) to step out, fuck around, whatever. </p>
<p>The movie &#8211; as I read it &#8211; was retro in its contrarian take on the sort of enforced monogamy put forth by Gabriel Rotello in the late 90&#8217;s (and now writ as Prop 8, etc.) and which currently has so much currency in the gay community.  Still, through the character&#8217;s lives, I saw the value of companionship and in the impossibility of monogamy. </p>
<p>A nuanced, evocative film. That would be the review of this **Natural Born Hooker***</p>
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		<title>By: Ann K. Ryles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann K. Ryles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Nick Taylor about the paired reviews.  Yours without Andrew&#039;s wouldn&#039;t have been half as illuminating.  I&#039;ve heard it said that vehement disagreement about the merits of an artistic work is a potential sign of the work&#039;s greatness.  How can I not see this movie after your praise and Andrew&#039;s indictment?  Maybe GFE is one of those litmus test movies you can&#039;t ever forget, whether you loved or hated it.  Thanks, Rumpus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nick Taylor about the paired reviews.  Yours without Andrew&#8217;s wouldn&#8217;t have been half as illuminating.  I&#8217;ve heard it said that vehement disagreement about the merits of an artistic work is a potential sign of the work&#8217;s greatness.  How can I not see this movie after your praise and Andrew&#8217;s indictment?  Maybe GFE is one of those litmus test movies you can&#8217;t ever forget, whether you loved or hated it.  Thanks, Rumpus.</p>
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		<title>By: Amstutz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amstutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 18:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review. I think people dislike the movie because it is too true for too many. Perhaps it isn&#039;t just sex workers who operate under the delusion. Maybe, many clients have that delusion that they are going to meet the hooker with the heart of gold, who they are going to change and live with happily ever after. Its all a delusion. Pure unvarnished truth is painful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review. I think people dislike the movie because it is too true for too many. Perhaps it isn&#8217;t just sex workers who operate under the delusion. Maybe, many clients have that delusion that they are going to meet the hooker with the heart of gold, who they are going to change and live with happily ever after. Its all a delusion. Pure unvarnished truth is painful.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 16:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read Andrew Altschul&#039;s review, now yours. I have not seen GFE yet, and honestly don&#039;t know if I will, but that does not diminish my appreciation of these two pieces of writing. Reviews ought to stand on their own, apart from the work they&#039;re reviewing, and these do. Bravo, Rumpus. You should do all movie reviews in pairs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read Andrew Altschul&#8217;s review, now yours. I have not seen GFE yet, and honestly don&#8217;t know if I will, but that does not diminish my appreciation of these two pieces of writing. Reviews ought to stand on their own, apart from the work they&#8217;re reviewing, and these do. Bravo, Rumpus. You should do all movie reviews in pairs!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 05:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love you Louie!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 04:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t agree more with your sentiments at the end, or for that matter, the way you stated it near the beginning, that we are all getting and giving, and making choices (in relationships, work, and everywhere else) as to whether it is worth it to stay involved with a given situation based on commerce-type motives. Put simply, we all are getting as much as we can for as little as possible. And when the return on our investments, so to speak, begin to run dry we often cut and run. This is very human behavior. I haven&#039;t seen the film, but appreciate your thoughtful take on animals dating and mating. Whore is not pejorative. So fucking true!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with your sentiments at the end, or for that matter, the way you stated it near the beginning, that we are all getting and giving, and making choices (in relationships, work, and everywhere else) as to whether it is worth it to stay involved with a given situation based on commerce-type motives. Put simply, we all are getting as much as we can for as little as possible. And when the return on our investments, so to speak, begin to run dry we often cut and run. This is very human behavior. I haven&#8217;t seen the film, but appreciate your thoughtful take on animals dating and mating. Whore is not pejorative. So fucking true!</p>
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		<title>By: louie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The review alone makes me want to see the film. Beautiful. No wonder you get all the sex workers!</description>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 02:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great essay, Steve, and such beautiful line about our dreams tricking us. The film just doesn&#039;t  quite deserve your thoughtfulness. 

The key problem with this tedious film is that the characters weren&#039;t complex at all, nor were they interesting caricatures. Doesn&#039;t matter if they&#039;re sex workers or cosmonauts, Give your people some depth or don&#039;t bother. 
These people were flat as roadkill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great essay, Steve, and such beautiful line about our dreams tricking us. The film just doesn&#8217;t  quite deserve your thoughtfulness. </p>
<p>The key problem with this tedious film is that the characters weren&#8217;t complex at all, nor were they interesting caricatures. Doesn&#8217;t matter if they&#8217;re sex workers or cosmonauts, Give your people some depth or don&#8217;t bother.<br />
These people were flat as roadkill.</p>
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