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	<title>Comments on: A FAN&#8217;S NOTES, The Rumpus Sports Column #14: Tailgating with Jesus</title>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 08:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read a couple Philip Roth books now, okay but I never laughed out loud like I did at the line &#039;he has this cool way of multiplying a single loaf of bread so that everybody can nosh a little&#039; so you&#039;re one up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read a couple Philip Roth books now, okay but I never laughed out loud like I did at the line &#8216;he has this cool way of multiplying a single loaf of bread so that everybody can nosh a little&#8217; so you&#8217;re one up.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 19:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Tyson&#039;s comment on discrepancy, he&#039;s absolutely right.  The domestic violence point is only one aspect of it.  (And seems especially prevalent in MLB -- see Elijah Dukes for one particularly awful case.)  

How about the fact that multiple current and former players in Vick&#039;s own sport have killed people and either continued to be allowed to play (Leonard Little, probably Donte Stallworth when he gets released from prison), or received far less media coverage and been the subject of far less outrage (Dwayne Goodrich, Rae Carruth).  Compared to the furor over Vick, those cases make it pretty clear that mass sports culture exhibits more outrage about the killing of dogs than it does about the killing of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Tyson&#8217;s comment on discrepancy, he&#8217;s absolutely right.  The domestic violence point is only one aspect of it.  (And seems especially prevalent in MLB &#8212; see Elijah Dukes for one particularly awful case.)  </p>
<p>How about the fact that multiple current and former players in Vick&#8217;s own sport have killed people and either continued to be allowed to play (Leonard Little, probably Donte Stallworth when he gets released from prison), or received far less media coverage and been the subject of far less outrage (Dwayne Goodrich, Rae Carruth).  Compared to the furor over Vick, those cases make it pretty clear that mass sports culture exhibits more outrage about the killing of dogs than it does about the killing of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 15:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drawing the line between public shame and inner remorse is always a tough game. As Pascal put it, before you can actually believe, you often have to pretend to believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drawing the line between public shame and inner remorse is always a tough game. As Pascal put it, before you can actually believe, you often have to pretend to believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great piece. from what I have seen, it&#039;s the best short treatment of one of the more complicated contemporary stories in sports.

what has always bothered me about the michael vick scenario is the discrepancy in the public&#039;s outrage. athlete&#039;s get charged with beating their female partners from time to time yet the public seems to by in large, look the other way. for example, two players in last year&#039;s world series (one on each team--Phillies and Rays)  had been previously charged with domestic violence. there was little to no coverage of this. and relative to Vick&#039;s impropriety, no outrage at all.

this suggests a number of things as far as I can tell. we are very likely to blame the victim (unless it is a defenseless animal). many folks care more about dogs than women. and the race of the perpetrator definitely matters--there is much less room for error if you are black or brown than if you are white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great piece. from what I have seen, it&#8217;s the best short treatment of one of the more complicated contemporary stories in sports.</p>
<p>what has always bothered me about the michael vick scenario is the discrepancy in the public&#8217;s outrage. athlete&#8217;s get charged with beating their female partners from time to time yet the public seems to by in large, look the other way. for example, two players in last year&#8217;s world series (one on each team&#8211;Phillies and Rays)  had been previously charged with domestic violence. there was little to no coverage of this. and relative to Vick&#8217;s impropriety, no outrage at all.</p>
<p>this suggests a number of things as far as I can tell. we are very likely to blame the victim (unless it is a defenseless animal). many folks care more about dogs than women. and the race of the perpetrator definitely matters&#8211;there is much less room for error if you are black or brown than if you are white.</p>
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