Comments on: John Dies at the End http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/ Books, Music, Movies, Art, Politics, Sex, Other Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:51:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Kid_Sinister http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-18235 Kid_Sinister Sun, 28 Feb 2010 13:39:23 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-18235 This review was very good. It's obvious (from the patronising nature of your replies) that several of the people posting in defence of JDatE are PWOT moderators, and all of you guys suck. Pargin is a boring has-been who, ironically, was funny before he made his living from comedy. Now he seems limited to threatening people in an online forum and deleting comments that disagree with his point of view. Fun guy! Also, while Ethan's post was moronic (so he should receive some kind of special recognition because he was just taking a stab at the whole author thing?), the number of people here who don't understand sarcasm is astonishing. None of you should be allowed to have an opinion on anything. This review was very good. It’s obvious (from the patronising nature of your replies) that several of the people posting in defence of JDatE are PWOT moderators, and all of you guys suck. Pargin is a boring has-been who, ironically, was funny before he made his living from comedy. Now he seems limited to threatening people in an online forum and deleting comments that disagree with his point of view. Fun guy!

Also, while Ethan’s post was moronic (so he should receive some kind of special recognition because he was just taking a stab at the whole author thing?), the number of people here who don’t understand sarcasm is astonishing. None of you should be allowed to have an opinion on anything.

]]> By: Ben http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-15848 Ben Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:40:59 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-15848 Jack, what you REALLY don't get is that he hasn't "re-released this book four times." As in, he has not gone begging to publishers, asking them to publish his awesome book because it totally deserved better than what it got, guys. Each time, a publisher has approached him and been like, "Wow, your novel is really good and a ton of people read it. Also, the last time it was published, every single copy was snapped up. Can we publish it again?" I mean, all I can think of is that you thought that Pargim should have turned them down so as to keep you happy. I mean, these people all but shoved a large bundle of money in his lap. I mean, who wouldn't take it? All this can be discovered by doing an absolute minimum amount of research on the book. Also, the first one was not out for six years in book form. It was on a blog, then published less than two years ago. Pargim didn't realize he could make money off of it until recently. He hasn't been milking it forever. The book just started. Also, if you read his blog, he's posted part 1 of a possible sequel and talked about how he's writing the sequel now. I mean, Jesus Christ, man, how about Google searching before shouting about how you're pissed because the author hasn't deposited a shiny new book in your lap right NOW! Jack, what you REALLY don’t get is that he hasn’t “re-released this book four times.” As in, he has not gone begging to publishers, asking them to publish his awesome book because it totally deserved better than what it got, guys.

Each time, a publisher has approached him and been like, “Wow, your novel is really good and a ton of people read it. Also, the last time it was published, every single copy was snapped up. Can we publish it again?”

I mean, all I can think of is that you thought that Pargim should have turned them down so as to keep you happy. I mean, these people all but shoved a large bundle of money in his lap. I mean, who wouldn’t take it?

All this can be discovered by doing an absolute minimum amount of research on the book. Also, the first one was not out for six years in book form. It was on a blog, then published less than two years ago. Pargim didn’t realize he could make money off of it until recently. He hasn’t been milking it forever. The book just started.

Also, if you read his blog, he’s posted part 1 of a possible sequel and talked about how he’s writing the sequel now. I mean, Jesus Christ, man, how about Google searching before shouting about how you’re pissed because the author hasn’t deposited a shiny new book in your lap right NOW!

]]> By: Devin http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-12745 Devin Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:58:41 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-12745 Jack, what I think you don't realize is, this came from a series of short stories. Fans wanted more, that's what he gave them. You mention him re-releasing it four times, which yes he did, and no most people don't do this. But It's obviously not about money. Even when the Permuted Press version was published, it was STILL hosted online for FREE. Meaning anyone who wanted to read it could and not pay a single penny. Only when St. Martin's Press decided to publish it did he take it down, and that's probably only because a big time publisher isn't dumb enough to sell a product people can get for free. He's working on the sequel, on top of his job at Cracked. (Oh no, more infantile jokes! How will I ever survive in such a savage world as this?) And the reason it was republished by St. Martin's is because obviously the book had been out of print with Permuted for a while. When people (i.e. his fans) are willing to pay 200 dollars and more for his book because you can't get a new copy, doesn't it seem much nicer to offer it to them at a reasonable price and have much more available to anyone who actually enjoys the book? The point of the matter is, fine, I get it, it's not your type of book. But don't poke jabs at the author who has provided fan service out the ass for the people who actually enjoy the book. Let's see any other author out there publish their book online for years. I bet you'll be hard-pressed finding one. Not that I'm saying he's the only one. Jack, what I think you don’t realize is, this came from a series of short stories. Fans wanted more, that’s what he gave them. You mention him re-releasing it four times, which yes he did, and no most people don’t do this. But It’s obviously not about money. Even when the Permuted Press version was published, it was STILL hosted online for FREE. Meaning anyone who wanted to read it could and not pay a single penny. Only when St. Martin’s Press decided to publish it did he take it down, and that’s probably only because a big time publisher isn’t dumb enough to sell a product people can get for free. He’s working on the sequel, on top of his job at Cracked. (Oh no, more infantile jokes! How will I ever survive in such a savage world as this?) And the reason it was republished by St. Martin’s is because obviously the book had been out of print with Permuted for a while. When people (i.e. his fans) are willing to pay 200 dollars and more for his book because you can’t get a new copy, doesn’t it seem much nicer to offer it to them at a reasonable price and have much more available to anyone who actually enjoys the book? The point of the matter is, fine, I get it, it’s not your type of book. But don’t poke jabs at the author who has provided fan service out the ass for the people who actually enjoy the book. Let’s see any other author out there publish their book online for years. I bet you’ll be hard-pressed finding one. Not that I’m saying he’s the only one.

]]> By: bright eyes http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-11604 bright eyes Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:33:07 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-11604 You must have forgotten being a human instead of an elitist reviewer droid. I don't know about you, but I had some pretty wicked nightmares while reading JDatE, and that has to signify an excellent horror book. None of that Goosebumps/Twilight garbage. So, you sir, can suck it. As told by a 17 year old girl. (: You must have forgotten being a human instead of an elitist reviewer droid.
I don’t know about you, but I had some pretty wicked nightmares while reading JDatE, and that has to signify an excellent horror book. None of that Goosebumps/Twilight garbage.
So, you sir, can suck it.
As told by a 17 year old girl. (:

]]> By: slugboy genocide http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-10771 slugboy genocide Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:39:48 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-10771 It is the general air intolerance in the review that makes me ask... It is the general air intolerance in the review that makes me ask…

]]> By: slugboy genocide http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-10770 slugboy genocide Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:37:51 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-10770 Gotta ask the reviewer, and I may be branded a troll for this, but ... Christian much? Gotta ask the reviewer, and I may be branded a troll for this, but … Christian much?

]]> By: asinine http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-10676 asinine Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:31:44 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-10676 Oh wait, were you joking? I feel foolish. Oh wait, were you joking? I feel foolish.

]]> By: asinine http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-10675 asinine Sat, 17 Oct 2009 21:15:46 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-10675 Here's my late response to Ethan: Yes, Wong is a new author. He, like most authors, sat there one day and had a story drift through his head. Just because his story did not involve and faun in a scarf or a hobbit and a dragon does not mean it does not deserve to be published. The idea that publishing and a persons right to produce a story should be regulated is moronic. :) Disagree with JDatE all you want, but the idea that Wong didn't deserve to have it published is just stupid. He had enough fans and dedication to the story, even if you're too blind to see what that story was. I think he put together a decent modern horror novel. It could use some work, but what authors first work couldn't use some touching up? When we read JDatE we're not looking for a story that tugs at our heartstrings and teaches us the deep truth of the human condition. We're looking to be amused, scared, and entertained by a story that is brand new to us and concepts and ideals that we've never seen before. Wong does that just fine. When you limit yourself to only elitist literature that has specific standards it must live up to, you severely limit yourself. There are way too many good books out there for you to prance around that elitist mantra :) Here’s my late response to Ethan:

Yes, Wong is a new author. He, like most authors, sat there one day and had a story drift through his head. Just because his story did not involve and faun in a scarf or a hobbit and a dragon does not mean it does not deserve to be published. The idea that publishing and a persons right to produce a story should be regulated is moronic. :) Disagree with JDatE all you want, but the idea that Wong didn’t deserve to have it published is just stupid. He had enough fans and dedication to the story, even if you’re too blind to see what that story was.

I think he put together a decent modern horror novel. It could use some work, but what authors first work couldn’t use some touching up? When we read JDatE we’re not looking for a story that tugs at our heartstrings and teaches us the deep truth of the human condition. We’re looking to be amused, scared, and entertained by a story that is brand new to us and concepts and ideals that we’ve never seen before. Wong does that just fine.

When you limit yourself to only elitist literature that has specific standards it must live up to, you severely limit yourself. There are way too many good books out there for you to prance around that elitist mantra :)

]]> By: Larwick http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-10661 Larwick Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:20:05 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-10661 "I think he should have moved on and written a whole new book once the Permuted Press version had been published. This way, he looks like he’s either burned out of ideas, or he can’t be arsed to think of any." The first part of his sequel was already on the website and being updated when the Permuted Press version was published. It is also brilliant. “I think he should have moved on and written a whole new book once the Permuted Press version had been published. This way, he looks like he’s either burned out of ideas, or he can’t be arsed to think of any.”

The first part of his sequel was already on the website and being updated when the Permuted Press version was published. It is also brilliant.

]]> By: Jack http://therumpus.net/2009/09/john-dies-at-the-end/comment-page-1/#comment-10287 Jack Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:06:46 +0000 http://therumpus.net/?p=33974#comment-10287 Ethan did make good point that Pargin is living the dream. He got his own book published, and well done to him. Many people don't even get one book published... Most people don't re-release the same book four times though. I think he should have moved on and written a whole new book once the Permuted Press version had been published. This way, he looks like he's either burned out of ideas, or he can't be arsed to think of any. Either way, he's bilking his fans for money without doing any work, and that's what pisses me off more than anything. Nobody of consequence: You make some good points, but I think the main problem that Kenny had with this is that it just wasn't his kind of style. JDatE is an aquired taste. If you don't like the dick jokes and the silliness then the book just falls flat. If you aren't part of it's target audience then it just doesn't have the same effect. Ethan did make good point that Pargin is living the dream. He got his own book published, and well done to him. Many people don’t even get one book published…

Most people don’t re-release the same book four times though.

I think he should have moved on and written a whole new book once the Permuted Press version had been published. This way, he looks like he’s either burned out of ideas, or he can’t be arsed to think of any.

Either way, he’s bilking his fans for money without doing any work, and that’s what pisses me off more than anything.

Nobody of consequence:

You make some good points, but I think the main problem that Kenny had with this is that it just wasn’t his kind of style. JDatE is an aquired taste. If you don’t like the dick jokes and the silliness then the book just falls flat. If you aren’t part of it’s target audience then it just doesn’t have the same effect.

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