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		<title>By: Samuel Jay Keyser</title>
		<link>http://therumpus.net/2010/02/presto-book-o-why-i-went-ahead-and-self-published/comment-page-2/#comment-317224</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Jay Keyser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it all sounds pretty good, but I followed the same route. In the end I took the first u-turn I could find.  I had published one book with MIT Press, Mens et Mania: The MIT Nobody Knows.  I decided to try the self-publishing route with the second one, I Married a Travel Junkie. It was to be a comparison trial.  I used the Harvard Bookstore&#039;s POD facility and printed out 70 copies.  They weren&#039;t cheap, by the way. I got the book up on Amazon in a Kindle edition. That was a much better deal for me. (I got 66% of the sale price back.)  The end result: nada, zilch, zero. My MIT book has sold somewhere near 1000 copies so far.  With Harvard and Amazon, I managed to sell something like 200 copies total.  The missing ingredient was the time it took to promote the book.  I found that putting my book in the Harvard Bookstore and online at Amazon was like posting an ad on the town hall bulletin board on the island of Yap.  (There is one.  Go check it out.)  In the end when a publisher offered to publish Travel Junkie, I jumped at it. (Self-congratulatory note:  I heard that my book was the first to make it from Harvard&#039;s POD to a genuine publisher. Someone at the bookstore told me.)

A word of advice.  If you are going to self-publish, do not get an ISBN number.  My publisher would not have been able to publish my book if I had one since that number said, &quot;already published.&quot;

So, bottom line, self-publish if you want, but be ready to work your butt off promoting it.  I would rather spend the time writing.  Truth in advertising: I&#039;m 76 years old.  So I don&#039;t feel like I have all that much time to give away.  Maybe self-publishing a la Steve Almond is a young person&#039;s activity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it all sounds pretty good, but I followed the same route. In the end I took the first u-turn I could find.  I had published one book with MIT Press, Mens et Mania: The MIT Nobody Knows.  I decided to try the self-publishing route with the second one, I Married a Travel Junkie. It was to be a comparison trial.  I used the Harvard Bookstore&#8217;s POD facility and printed out 70 copies.  They weren&#8217;t cheap, by the way. I got the book up on Amazon in a Kindle edition. That was a much better deal for me. (I got 66% of the sale price back.)  The end result: nada, zilch, zero. My MIT book has sold somewhere near 1000 copies so far.  With Harvard and Amazon, I managed to sell something like 200 copies total.  The missing ingredient was the time it took to promote the book.  I found that putting my book in the Harvard Bookstore and online at Amazon was like posting an ad on the town hall bulletin board on the island of Yap.  (There is one.  Go check it out.)  In the end when a publisher offered to publish Travel Junkie, I jumped at it. (Self-congratulatory note:  I heard that my book was the first to make it from Harvard&#8217;s POD to a genuine publisher. Someone at the bookstore told me.)</p>
<p>A word of advice.  If you are going to self-publish, do not get an ISBN number.  My publisher would not have been able to publish my book if I had one since that number said, &#8220;already published.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, bottom line, self-publish if you want, but be ready to work your butt off promoting it.  I would rather spend the time writing.  Truth in advertising: I&#8217;m 76 years old.  So I don&#8217;t feel like I have all that much time to give away.  Maybe self-publishing a la Steve Almond is a young person&#8217;s activity.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharon Bially</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon Bially</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Sep 2011 22:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Living under that cloud of expectation, with its frequent storms of anxiety and compromise.&quot;  Well said.  

&quot;An arrtifact that commemorates a particular human gathering, not a commodity.&quot; I&#039;ll have one of those too, please.

And yes, making your own book IS fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Living under that cloud of expectation, with its frequent storms of anxiety and compromise.&#8221;  Well said.  </p>
<p>&#8220;An arrtifact that commemorates a particular human gathering, not a commodity.&#8221; I&#8217;ll have one of those too, please.</p>
<p>And yes, making your own book IS fun.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Carvan H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Carvan H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man I wish there was a source of inspiration like this for me when I self-pub&#039;d my first book in 1983. I wrote about the car biz because I had owned several automotive businesses since 1978 (my last) and a gearhead all the way through, I wrote this little tiny book of 100 automotive businesses descriptions. Although I had never typed anything in my life I typed away while my wife was 9 months preg ready to drop in March 1983 with our 3rd kid. As she walked around our rented home in south Texas, gaining in agony trying to get the kid to drop, I just typed the one finger job, you know what I mean. I finished it just before she went into labor the next day. I had about 100 copies printed and advertised them in a the Houston auto trader (called Wheeler Dealer back then)type mags for 5 bucks. Sold &#039;em all. 

After that I stopped writing but the idea never went away. With 3 kids and 7 businesses to run I coudn&#039;t think about sitting at type writer. Time wasn&#039;t on my end. Forward to 1995. 

The idea was restless in the back of my mind to write books and selling zillions and becoming free from the whims of economic crap. I never forgot that little crappy booklet and how it made me a &quot;fortune&quot;. Restlessness covered me over until I found a lost copy tucked away in a pastic storage bin that had been all but forgotten. Amazing that it was kept in tact and stayed in the family what with maybe 10 moves. Divine. 

So I pecked away at my new Acer computer whcih had some kind of home pub program. I went off the deepend and expanded it into a 200 page &quot;How to Start an Automotive Business&quot; manual. I self-pub&#039;d that one too having them printed for about $15 bucks apiece at Kinkos. I sent them to national magazines. In about 3 months the first press release came out and my manual was mentioned in several car publications with my address and ordering info. In a year I sold over 12000 at $125 bucks a piece. This was a &quot;How-to&quot; manual specifically about starting and running a successful auto biz so that pretty much gave me the power to ask lots of money.  That&#039;s was was the &quot;mail order&quot; biz back then. 

In &#039;97 I wrote another auto specialty type book with 100 pages and basically did the same routine, type, self-pub and freebie marketing sending out press releases. I had 3 mags giving it positive praises. I did all the edits, artwork, labor and suffering that goes into a book. That one sold over 20,OOO at 19.95. 

But that&#039;s not all. That un-professionally published 100 page book also got me a mid-six figure consulting gig with a major automotive aftermarket company. Which I really hated. Man talk about corp politics. 

After that I decided that I would focus on writing my way or kill over trying. I have 10 manuscripts every kind. Mostly business related with some of my strange pshycho crap trhwon in. I have to so them or else dry up and go away. 

In 2002 I discovered the fun life of Diabetes.  I have severe Diabetic neuropathy and have since slowed to a crawl in my main business which is auto related. Now it is time to take what I have written and get serious. 

My mindbending behind those crude publicatiuons have taught me that you, anyone with the &quot;get off yer ass and go&quot; attitude can do this. You can free yourself from the ass draggers and rude F&#039;kers at trad publishers and the lazy bums who tell you it is dumb idea. 

I am doing what I preach...IRDGAF...that is my mantra...&quot;I really don&#039;t give f#@k&quot; the attitude which keeps me motivated no amtter what the rest of the universe is doing. It serves me well. because anything artsy like writing, to make it, or not, you cannot feed off the a#%holes of society. 

Screwed up health and physical disabilities and all, I&#039;m working on my two books now. One is focused on CEO and business owners called &quot;Kingpin Confidential.&quot; In an advisory roll I&#039;ve dealt with every type of Big Biz Kingpin you can fathom from drug dealers to politicians and let me tell you this; from my lessons in Kingpindom I&#039;d rather hang with a bunch of tatted well armed bikers who will tell me to my face I&#039;m gonna get hurt than suits who stab you after you turn your back. The other one is about my business trippin&#039; for 35 plus years and how I&#039;ve survived the streets of business hell and lived to tell all about. 

Yes, I&#039;m probably the most reluctant writer, rebellious entrepeneur on earth but I gotta say this, I really have done it my way, not theirs.  

Thanks for your explicit inspiration allowing me to tell lies. Now gimme an Almond bar. Oh, sorry &#039;bout the &#039;typhoes&#039; I freely install in my writing. That&#039;s reality wording and if the smart asses don&#039;t like my misspelling and screwed up thinking well come on down and let&#039;s rock. I gots the tea and beans! Mikey...Not Perfect...Real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man I wish there was a source of inspiration like this for me when I self-pub&#8217;d my first book in 1983. I wrote about the car biz because I had owned several automotive businesses since 1978 (my last) and a gearhead all the way through, I wrote this little tiny book of 100 automotive businesses descriptions. Although I had never typed anything in my life I typed away while my wife was 9 months preg ready to drop in March 1983 with our 3rd kid. As she walked around our rented home in south Texas, gaining in agony trying to get the kid to drop, I just typed the one finger job, you know what I mean. I finished it just before she went into labor the next day. I had about 100 copies printed and advertised them in a the Houston auto trader (called Wheeler Dealer back then)type mags for 5 bucks. Sold &#8216;em all. </p>
<p>After that I stopped writing but the idea never went away. With 3 kids and 7 businesses to run I coudn&#8217;t think about sitting at type writer. Time wasn&#8217;t on my end. Forward to 1995. </p>
<p>The idea was restless in the back of my mind to write books and selling zillions and becoming free from the whims of economic crap. I never forgot that little crappy booklet and how it made me a &#8220;fortune&#8221;. Restlessness covered me over until I found a lost copy tucked away in a pastic storage bin that had been all but forgotten. Amazing that it was kept in tact and stayed in the family what with maybe 10 moves. Divine. </p>
<p>So I pecked away at my new Acer computer whcih had some kind of home pub program. I went off the deepend and expanded it into a 200 page &#8220;How to Start an Automotive Business&#8221; manual. I self-pub&#8217;d that one too having them printed for about $15 bucks apiece at Kinkos. I sent them to national magazines. In about 3 months the first press release came out and my manual was mentioned in several car publications with my address and ordering info. In a year I sold over 12000 at $125 bucks a piece. This was a &#8220;How-to&#8221; manual specifically about starting and running a successful auto biz so that pretty much gave me the power to ask lots of money.  That&#8217;s was was the &#8220;mail order&#8221; biz back then. </p>
<p>In &#8217;97 I wrote another auto specialty type book with 100 pages and basically did the same routine, type, self-pub and freebie marketing sending out press releases. I had 3 mags giving it positive praises. I did all the edits, artwork, labor and suffering that goes into a book. That one sold over 20,OOO at 19.95. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s not all. That un-professionally published 100 page book also got me a mid-six figure consulting gig with a major automotive aftermarket company. Which I really hated. Man talk about corp politics. </p>
<p>After that I decided that I would focus on writing my way or kill over trying. I have 10 manuscripts every kind. Mostly business related with some of my strange pshycho crap trhwon in. I have to so them or else dry up and go away. </p>
<p>In 2002 I discovered the fun life of Diabetes.  I have severe Diabetic neuropathy and have since slowed to a crawl in my main business which is auto related. Now it is time to take what I have written and get serious. </p>
<p>My mindbending behind those crude publicatiuons have taught me that you, anyone with the &#8220;get off yer ass and go&#8221; attitude can do this. You can free yourself from the ass draggers and rude F&#8217;kers at trad publishers and the lazy bums who tell you it is dumb idea. </p>
<p>I am doing what I preach&#8230;IRDGAF&#8230;that is my mantra&#8230;&#8221;I really don&#8217;t give f#@k&#8221; the attitude which keeps me motivated no amtter what the rest of the universe is doing. It serves me well. because anything artsy like writing, to make it, or not, you cannot feed off the a#%holes of society. </p>
<p>Screwed up health and physical disabilities and all, I&#8217;m working on my two books now. One is focused on CEO and business owners called &#8220;Kingpin Confidential.&#8221; In an advisory roll I&#8217;ve dealt with every type of Big Biz Kingpin you can fathom from drug dealers to politicians and let me tell you this; from my lessons in Kingpindom I&#8217;d rather hang with a bunch of tatted well armed bikers who will tell me to my face I&#8217;m gonna get hurt than suits who stab you after you turn your back. The other one is about my business trippin&#8217; for 35 plus years and how I&#8217;ve survived the streets of business hell and lived to tell all about. </p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m probably the most reluctant writer, rebellious entrepeneur on earth but I gotta say this, I really have done it my way, not theirs.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your explicit inspiration allowing me to tell lies. Now gimme an Almond bar. Oh, sorry &#8217;bout the &#8216;typhoes&#8217; I freely install in my writing. That&#8217;s reality wording and if the smart asses don&#8217;t like my misspelling and screwed up thinking well come on down and let&#8217;s rock. I gots the tea and beans! Mikey&#8230;Not Perfect&#8230;Real.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just self-published and it was one of the hardest decisions I&#039;ve ever made. It felt like giving up...but I got tired of agents telling me the book was good but the market was not big enough. So I did it myself. Want to see the type of writing that is getting left by the wayside? Go to my site. www.danielcavallari.com.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just self-published and it was one of the hardest decisions I&#8217;ve ever made. It felt like giving up&#8230;but I got tired of agents telling me the book was good but the market was not big enough. So I did it myself. Want to see the type of writing that is getting left by the wayside? Go to my site. <a href="http://www.danielcavallari.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.danielcavallari.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lev Raphael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lev Raphael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Dwight, how will readers know what&#039;s good? The same way they always have: they will take a look at the book, read some of it, and decide.  It&#039;s not that complicated.  And with ebooks, you can often download big free samples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Dwight, how will readers know what&#8217;s good? The same way they always have: they will take a look at the book, read some of it, and decide.  It&#8217;s not that complicated.  And with ebooks, you can often download big free samples.</p>
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		<title>By: MPW</title>
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		<dc:creator>MPW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this. Amen, Steve Almond. Also, dwoz: The musicians who do other work to pay the rent are 90% of musicians. It has far less to do with whether you&#039;re putting out records yourself; it only really makes a difference if you&#039;re A) putting out records on a label with some cash and enough faith to give you a good advance, so much of which gets squandered anyway, B) working in a genre that lets you profit from remixes and huge club nights, i.e. techno or any of its derivatives and/or C) if you have a big enough following (or a great enough booking agent) to command a guarantee that pays for more than gas, hotels and random other fees. And that&#039;s just not a reality for so many artists, even those making records you might be buying. I know several people in ostensibly successful bands who still pick up a little construction work here and there. I mean, buying an actual book, thrown into the ether by some well-known publisher, doesn&#039;t mean its writer isn&#039;t working somewhere else, right? Same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this. Amen, Steve Almond. Also, dwoz: The musicians who do other work to pay the rent are 90% of musicians. It has far less to do with whether you&#8217;re putting out records yourself; it only really makes a difference if you&#8217;re A) putting out records on a label with some cash and enough faith to give you a good advance, so much of which gets squandered anyway, B) working in a genre that lets you profit from remixes and huge club nights, i.e. techno or any of its derivatives and/or C) if you have a big enough following (or a great enough booking agent) to command a guarantee that pays for more than gas, hotels and random other fees. And that&#8217;s just not a reality for so many artists, even those making records you might be buying. I know several people in ostensibly successful bands who still pick up a little construction work here and there. I mean, buying an actual book, thrown into the ether by some well-known publisher, doesn&#8217;t mean its writer isn&#8217;t working somewhere else, right? Same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: DWood</title>
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		<dc:creator>DWood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key here is caveat emptor. Remember the self-publishing companies&#039; business plan: rather than publishing 50 books and selling 10,000 apiece, we&#039;ll publish 10,000 books and sell 50 apiece. Oy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key here is caveat emptor. Remember the self-publishing companies&#8217; business plan: rather than publishing 50 books and selling 10,000 apiece, we&#8217;ll publish 10,000 books and sell 50 apiece. Oy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s hard to master the art of writing + self publishing all at once, I think it&#039;s a a worthwhile investment to just go and find the best publishers who won&#039;t rip you off (although they&#039;re rare.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s hard to master the art of writing + self publishing all at once, I think it&#8217;s a a worthwhile investment to just go and find the best publishers who won&#8217;t rip you off (although they&#8217;re rare.)</p>
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		<title>By: dwoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>dwoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 01:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to be a nay-sayer...

But the musicians who self-publish are actually people who do other work in order to pay their rent.

Technology has indeed changed the equation...but all it&#039;s really done is change the costs around obtaining copies.

The MUCH HARDER WORK of publicity and marketing are barely touched...and are probably much more difficult now.

Vanity publishing is STILL vanity publishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to be a nay-sayer&#8230;</p>
<p>But the musicians who self-publish are actually people who do other work in order to pay their rent.</p>
<p>Technology has indeed changed the equation&#8230;but all it&#8217;s really done is change the costs around obtaining copies.</p>
<p>The MUCH HARDER WORK of publicity and marketing are barely touched&#8230;and are probably much more difficult now.</p>
<p>Vanity publishing is STILL vanity publishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait, wait, you haven&#039;t tried making out with me! Have lips. Will travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait, wait, you haven&#8217;t tried making out with me! Have lips. Will travel.</p>
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