One suspects that had he written his dreams down on a piece of paper as a teenager growing up on the industrial outskirts of Pittsburgh — a time when, according to a friend’s Facebook post, he walked around town with a “raccoon’s penis bone around his ear” — it would have said: write a literary horror novel, develop it as a tv series with Eli Roth on board to direct, then bring the whole production back home to Western Pennsylvania to shoot amongst the gothic ruins of my youth. Natch.

You might think you have to be a Hollywood douchebag to make all these things happen, smiling and hand-pressing and compromising yourself until you reach that soulless place where success is most likely, but one can’t help noticing just how uncompromising Brian’s been. Despite overt pressure to follow the trajectory of successful franchises like Twilight and Hunger Games, where the sex is always sexless and the death equally bloodless, Brian has gone on record as saying, “you can pry my rape scene from my cold dead hands.” In other words, Hemlock Grove is for adults and shares more DNA with shows like “Game of Thrones” or “Twin Peaks.” Nor is the novel your standard, pulp genre fare. Critics are reaching for names as diverse as Lethem, Salinger and Bram Stoker to describe the novel’s balance of supernatural thrills and true-to-life psychological drama. But this very mixture of literary fiction and classic genre also made the book a tough sell; he burned through eight agents and half a dozen publishers before FSG took on Hemlock Grove.

I know Brian a little and he is an unusually blunt guy. He’s also a good giver of advice, so I thought it would be fun to ask him some direct questions about his success as a writer and now that he’s a showrunner, the qualities he looks for in other writers. Oh, also about that raccoon penis-bone thing…

***

The Rumpus: Your writing career is obviously going really well at this point (mildly speaking) and a fair amount of ink has been spilled about that success. So give us some of the low-lights. (Feel free to elaborate on your role in the Austin plasma trade.)

Brian McGreevy: In the summer before graduate school I was “Subject 23” in a medical experiment.  There is an entire subculture of people who derive their income from doing one experiment after another, and each one involves having blood drawn several dozen times so of course the real pros all have veins like junkies.  In the initial physical the nurses were fighting over who got to do my blood draw in this sort of vampiric way: “This one’s clean!”  It’s a compliment I’ve never received before or since so maybe that’s not a lowlight.

“Success” as defined by a professional achievement it serves corporate agendas to publicize creates a warped perspective.  It’s like looking at a wedding and thinking these people haven’t had like a million shitty or retarded romantic milestones before this one you happen to be doing the Chicken Dance at.

But one thing that was pretty awesome was getting my first studio gig one week before the writer’s strike of 2007, which meant not being able to get paid for four months.  I had to get a job as a barista in this chi-chi south Austin market to pay rent with a contract from Fox sitting in a shoebox in my closet.  The market was called Cissi’s.  Think about that phonetically.  This was definitely a highlight for my friends, so it’s all relative.

Rumpus: There’s a lot of hand-wringing that goes on regarding the worth of MFA programs for writers. Whenever we’ve chatted, you’ve spoken highly of your program and especially your cohort at the Michener Center, but you’re also probably mindful of the ton of writers who graduate from professional writing programs each year and can’t get any traction. There’s a school of thought that goes: Fuck writing programs and get out of the fishbowl, living life is more important. What’s your advice to aspiring writers?

McGreevy: I’ve heard it said that you’ve experienced enough love, joy, terror, etc. by the time you’re five years old to understand the full spectrum of human experience, and I subscribe to this.  I believe the answer to this question is “live authentically.”  If the idea of going to a graduate school for writing makes you want to stick your head in the oven, then don’t.  You can develop your truest voice anywhere.  I happen to have been at my program at an exceptional time—three of my friends, none of whom had any nepotistic connection to the publishing industry, made major book deals in the last year.  They say it’s “who you know,” but the only people we knew was each other.  (Also, any time someone starts talking about how it’s who you know or the System is rigged or whatever, shove that person in front of the A train before that toxic, defeatist bullshit gets into your head.)

Just be yourself.  I realize I’m quoting the genie from Aladdin, but it’s good advice.  I also recommend being bad at compromise.  The two great fears about MFA programs are 1) that they have a tendency to homogenize fiction, and 2) it makes teaching as a safety net too appealing (which is to say, teaching in lieu of actually producing, as opposed to subsidizing same).  These are valid criticisms, and I wouldn’t claim to be the final authority on them.  But at the same time there is something wonderful about an environment that privileges the transaction of ideas.  As someone who works in Hollywood I left the fishbowl for the USS Indianapolis, but came into it with a very strong sense of my own identity and values.  Or at least the faculty to hear “No” as “I fuckin’ dare you.”

Rumpus: You got your film agent and manager while you were still in grad school. How did that come about? There are a lot of writers pinging queries into bottomless inboxes out there — even writers from good programs — did you do something magical to ensure the Odds Would be Ever in Your Favor?

McGreevy: To start, a tangent, because this calls back to my distaste for people talking in conspiratorial ways about “the System.”  Right now we are in the process of casting, which is quite brutal and can only give you huge amounts of empathy for what actors go through (said as the guy sitting stone-faced on the couch with a cup of coffee as you are making your soul naked).  But I’ve learned a dirty and highly controversial secret about casting—it’s a meritocracy.  There is a consensus about the best person for the part almost immediately, and generally a stressful negotiation ensues because this person will be in demand because of their ability.  But this entails the juice to get yourself into the room, under these godawful conditions.

Writing is no different.  If you are good, and patient, you will eventually have a career.  This is a categorical truth.  Being a novelist and being a Hollywood screenwriter are both, statistically speaking, spectacularly unlikely, and yet half the contacts in my phone are either one or the other.  Patience is really the thing, because how good you are is between you and your god.  In Buddhism they tell you that examining your spiritual practice more than once every ten years is just navel gazing.  I promise you Cinderella’s wedding was annulled after the honeymoon.  Getting paid to do your art is a blessing, one of the great blessings in life, but it demands that much more of you because of it.

Tangent over.  The magical thing I did was enter a script I wrote with my screenwriting partner Lee Shipman into the Nicholl competition.  We didn’t win, but got our manager’s attention through it.  And then when it went out, it proceeded to not sell, and yet now (five years later) has a major name attached to it and will probably be our next film deal.  Or not.  Patience.  It’s the worst!

Rumpus: There’s been this perceived wisdom about Hollywood that you have to conform to its standards because nobody wants to try anything untested and “derivative” is always the word of the day.  Yet, you’ve gotten very far, very fast by staying true to your vision. With the proliferation of niches growing for all manner of TV and movies, do you feel like power is shifting to the side of the creators? Or has it been there all along and writers are just scared?

McGreevy: If you always put out on the first date you will have a much easier time getting dates than respect.  Compromising yourself for what you perceive someone else’s expectations are is always a mistake.  Granted, I’m a fairly conspicuous Gnostic: I believe that God’s power is manifest in all of us.  Look into the mirror and say Namaste until you’re ready to kick the world in its fucking balls.

Rumpus: As the Netflix series based on your novel, Hemlock Grove, goes into production, you must be under a lot of pressure to produce. What’s your writing routine like?

McGreevy: Well, right now I’m alternating between doing this interview and checking out Twitter responses to the graphic novel instead of working, so clearly my focus is the envy of a laser’s.  Typically my routine is to write in the morning, because I know my own slatternly tendencies well enough that this is the best insurance against not putting it off indefinitely.  But these days much of my responsibility is managerial, so it requires parceling out space much more than when I was just writing free-lance.  Recently I was talking to a friend on the phone and told her I had to jump off because I was going into the office and she started laughing hysterically.  To be frightfully honest, I’m still figuring out the balance of my writing with a grown-up job.  Albeit a grown-up job that consists of playing with robotic dog puppets at a monster factory.

Rumpus: Although you are still a writer, you’ve also become a gatekeeper of sorts, at least in terms of staffing your own show. What do you look for in a script and how important is a writer’s own back story when you’re deciding who to hire?

McGreevy: I look for a voice and story sense.  It’s not any more mysterious than that, and you’d be surprised how infrequently you encounter both in adequate supply.  (Wit is also highly valuable, especially in drama.)  As far as biography, its only relevance is in relation to function.  For example, the first writer we hired was a woman out of the New York theatre scene, and she was headhunted to bring very specific qualities to the project (we saw her role as our Teenage Girl Psychodrama Czar).  We also discovered, generally, an inverse curve between a writer’s network experience and how well they’d adapt to this environment.  We’re going for an entirely different mode of storytelling – amongst ourselves we keep calling it our 13 hour independent movie – than the traditional four-act structure of a network one hour where you need some kind of major sting every ten minutes to make sure people don’t change the channel between commercials.  In form what we’re doing is much closer to a cinematic novel than traditional series, and the beauty of Netflix is that the expectation is that people will be consuming major chunks at a time, allowing a greater degree of trust in the audience.  But ultimately what almost superseded samples and was certainly of greater importance than CV was chemistry.  I’ve been working with Lee (who is co-showrunner) for a number of years at this point, so we have a specific but at the same time largely intangible set of criteria of what we look for in collaborators.  It’s such a fortuitous thing that Eli responded to the material, because we’re all so much on the same wavelength about what this project is; it’s the same thing as forming a band, so much of it is just the fickle finger of fate.

Rumpus: There has been much chatter lately about the emergence of the “literary genre novel.” But weirdly, this moniker only seems to apply to writers like Chabon and Whiteshead who only swung toward genre once their literary cred was established. A writer like Stephen King, who has always been genre (and has only in recent years been celebrated as a ‘serious’ writer) seems exempt from this conversation. Do you think there some kind of snobbery at work here? Is the “literary fiction” section of the bookstore bullshit?

McGreevy: I guess I don’t care.  I live in Los Angeles, not Brooklyn; this is a town where TWILIGHT fan fiction erotica just sold for 3,000,000 dollars.  Why not?  America is the greatest country in history.  I’m an artist, I’m just blessed to have people have some kind of emotional reaction to my work.

Rumpus: Bonus question: Care to explain why you walked around with a raccoon’s penis bone around your ear as a fourteen year-old?

McGreevy: Obviously this was the secret of my popularity in high school.

_________________

*  Brian’s two movie scripts were co-authored with his writing partner, Lee Shipman.

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9:23am Fakhir
Hi

10:52am Fakhir
Hi my prettty darling

11:28am Fakhir
هاوڕێیان سەلامی خواتان لێبێت

11:31am Alina
huh?

11:31am Fakhir
means hi how r u ?

11:32am Alina
Wow, and here I was thinking it was a procession of schizophrenic ants!

11:35am Fakhir
hhhhhhhhhhh
wys up?
wts going on?

11:39am Alina
Sorry. I’m fine. How are you?

11:40am Fakhir
same my dear. i sent my salutations several times but there was no answer. i felt sorry for myself.

11:42am Alina
Wow. I’m sorry to hear that, Fakhir.

11:42am Fakhir
I was crying till now.
weeping
I thought may be you are angry with again

11:44am Alina
Fakhir, Jesus dear man, pull yourself together!
After all, I’m just a bunch of pixels that you’ve never even met…

11:51am Fakhir
I love you sooooooo much my pretty darling. forget about it you are alone everything for me.
Don’t say that please you are very honoruoble.

12:03pm Alina
Fakhir… we have to talk.
Not only do I live in the United States, but I’m also married. Plus? I don’t know you.

12:04pm Fakhir
what do you mean?

12:04pm Alina
Which of these statements confused you?

12:05pm Fakhir
I dont know
none of them, JUST because I said I love ?
please dont get me wrong, i love everybody in this world.

12:11pm Alina
Oh, well in that case, we’re fine! I didn’t realize I was the target of a globe-encompassing beam of love.

12:14pm Fakhir
I have a very srong and passionate heart, that is a cradle for everybody in this world, especialy those i know, and you can know me better.

12:17pm Alina
ok!

12:18pm Fakhir
ok?
so go ahead

3:12pm Fakhir
so…

6:14pm Fakhir
Hi my darling

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12:41pm
helllo aline simone , some one are waiting for you but you are not give me response why?

2:18pm
Hi Imran Akhtar. So sorry to have, er, kept you waiting! How are you? Who are you? Where are you?

2:20pm
I’m fine dear madam I’m really like you ,
my name is imran belong to lahore pakistan
I’m software engineer
i also know you are dislike pakistanis
same as?

2:23pm
Imran! Kind sir! Where did you hear I dislike Pakistanis?!? This is totally not true. How on earth did we go from “hello” to “you dislike Pakistanis” with such ferretlike speed?

2:33pm
Dear Alina so sorry for late response actually i was taking diner

2:34pm
I have been anxiously waiting!

2:35pm
I heard some people say that pakistanis are bad people
last day i was chating a girl which belong to uk
she said me I hate pakistanis
in fact really i love more those people who hate us?
any way … please tell me what do u do?
r u busy now?

2:46pm
Yes, well, there was that whole Osama thing…a rough bit of PR for Pakistainies, that one. But it’s not like YOU personally invited Osama over to your home and let him use your XBox and fed him your Pakistani-equivalent to Cheerios and shared a toilet seat with him. It’s stupid to hate Pakistani’s for that reason. It would be like Pakistani’s hating all Americans because we harbor Glenn Beck. Sorry to go on like that… Anyways, I’m a singer! And yes, I’m busy writing to you at this very moment aren’t I, you crazy trickster!

2:54pm
Imran? Hello??

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11:39pm Kleber
hey quick queztion

11:39pm Alina
listening

11:39pm Kleber
i’m afraid to talk to people

11:39pm Alina
You still haven’t fixed your “s” key

11:40pm Kleber
social phobia

11:40pm Alina
Ok. Go on.
Keep in mind I’m just a random stranger on Facebook.

11:40pm Kleber
what’s your advice for me
talking to people in facebook is easy
but in real life i feel afraid

11:41pm Alina
You have a pregnant girlfriend. You weren’t afraid to talk to her! And you didn’t get her pregnant through Facebook!

11:42pm Kleber
i lied
sorry i’m really sorry

11:42pm Alina
WHAT?!?!?!?!

11:42pm Kleber
that’z my problem

11:42pm Alina
But why…?

11:43pm Kleber
i just wanted to feel, i don’t kno

11:43pm Alina
Aww, Klebes.

11:43pm Kleber
i’d love to have a kid one day

11:43pm Alina
Sure.

11:44pm Kleber
so what’s your advice for me
how can i become more zocial

11:45pm Alina
That depends on a lot of things. Why don’t you find some people who love the same things you do? That way you already have something mutual to talk about.
Like start a band.

11:46pm Kleber
i have a lot of friendz that love muzic the zame az me
i’m on a band but ztill i’m afraid to talk
specially to girlz , and find a future mother of my kid

11:53pm Alina
That’s pretty complicated… I know! You could start off chatting with people on FB, then see if they want to hang out in real life. Even girls!

11:54pm Kleber
another thing

11:55pm Alina
Yes

11:56pm Kleber
what zhould i do if i zee every morning a girl that tried to make my girl once but zhe zaid , no, and now i’m zeeing her everyday in the morning a the train ztation when i’m going to work, and the only thing i zay to her iz hi and zhe zayz hi too and it’z done

11:59pm Alina
Gee Klebes. I don’t think there’s anything you can do about that. Unless you switch subway stations… That’s a sad little story though.

12:00am Kleber
can’t the only train that take me to my job, no problem

12:01pm Alina
You could walk to a really far, weird corner of the platform and read a book there facing the wall?
Not sure that would really make everything better though…

12:01am Kleber
thank you, if you want i can put a bag in my face too.
did you know that Adolf hitler had a wife 23 yearz old younger than him

12:05pm Alina
Yes. They got married a few hours before they both committed suicide. I don’t think either of them would be a good role model for you.

12:07am Kleber
Hitler iz my idol, not becauze of hiz ideology but hiz power of conmunication and to hypnotize people with hiz wordz

12:08pm Alina
Um. Yeah. Obama is pretty good at those things too. May I suggest him as a substitute?

12:09am Kleber
not Hitler iz the only one, but yeah Obama got that too

12:09pm Alina
Are you messing with my head, Klebes? First the fake pregnant girlfriend, now Hitler and Eva Braun?

12:10am Kleber
itz juzt the way it iz, i’m good lair
ho liez more men or women

12:12pm Alina
You lost me there with your creative typing…

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10:14pm Rajendra
hello mam good morning

10:15pm Alina
Hi Raj! How’s Nepal today?

10:16pm Rajendra
due to winter season its extremely growing cold

10:17pm Alina
Ah! Yes. That sounds familiar. The same phenomenon is occurring here too!

10:18pm Rajendra
what about your musical journey?

10:19pm Alina
I have to admit, my musical journey is standing pretty still right now. I did just release a cover of Britney Spears’ “Oops!… I did it again” Otherwise my days pretty much mirror those of my cat. How are you doing?

10:22pm Rajendra
I am very much happy to know this. its intresting what you have done. my time is passing with the regular duty…office to home and home to office

10:24pm Alina
Office to home and home to office! What do you do at the office? Do you ever stop for a donut on the way to office/home? Do they have donuts in Nepal?!?

10:25pm Rajendra
ya mam i am working in a private organization as an administrator.
donuts???? is this a cake item??

10:27pm Alina
Exactly! A cake item!!! It is round with a hole in the middle. And surprisingly fattening!

10:28pm Rajendra
ya mam it is available
i also like it very much
but why did you remember this cake now?

10:30pm Alina
I am glad that we can connect on this level, Raj. I remember this cake now, because I am pregnant, and find myself very badly wanting this donut every day. However, I am also very, very vain, and don’t want too get too fat, as I am already really quite fat enough.

10:33pm Rajendra
Really mam it is amazing that you are that fond of this thing
but try to control your weight and fat

10:34pm Alina
It’s a hard life

10:34pm  Rajendra
try to make it simple
i believe you will get it change

10:35pm Alina
Some people think Americans have it easy, see? But look what I’m dealing with over here! This donut thing will eventually drive me mad.

10:40pm Rajendra
i think mam donut is fatty item to take enough. and the other hand some of the reason behind this is the baby inside your womb also the cause of this. In our country in the countryside people have a belief the pregenant woman wish to have the things according to the child in their womb i.e. m/f

10:41pm Alina
In other words, my daughter wants a donut. The question becomes: When is it too early to start instilling some discipline?

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1:56am Amit
hi

1:56am Alina
Hello Amit Singh!

1:56am Amit
hw are u
?

1:57am Alina
You really don’t want to know, Amit. I am more than a little pregnant and the details don’t look pretty when committed to cold, hard print.

1:58am Amit
ok

1:58am Alina
Thanks for asking though. How the hell are you?

1:59am Amit
something wrong with u?

2:00am Alina
No! This is just how I am.

2:01am Amit
i think u are in tension

2:02am Alina
It’s possible…

2:03am Amit
may be i dont understand what u want to say and why say to me

2:04am Alina
I actually think you understand quite well! Let me try again: How are you?

2:05am Amit
fine
are u student ?

2:07am Alina
Nope. I am a singer and a writer and a person who lies on the couch and tries not to throw up. What do you do?

2:09am Amit
i’m an engineer

2:09am Alina
Interesting!

2:09am Amit
why?

2:10am Alina
Good question. Hmm. Is it secretly not interesting…?

2:13am Amit
why it is secretly?

2:13am Alina
Ok, is it simply not interesting being an engineer?
You are making this kind of difficult, Amit.

2:16am Amit
u are not intrested to chat with me

2:17am Alina
That’s not true Amit! I don’t understand how things started off so nicely and now we’re in a fight.

2:18am Amit
actually u say me how the hell are u?

2:19am Alina
yes, that’s just an enthusiastic way of saying HOW ARE YOU?!?

2:20am Amit
ok
so i hv a question for u?

2:21am Alina
Go for it!

2:21am Amit
can we friends ?

2:22am Alina
Sure, Amit! I think we already are friends. Or at least, “friends.”
But it is late and I am very sleepy, so we will have to be “friends” later. Goodnight

2:27am Amit
ok i hv also some work
talk to u later

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1:47am Kleber

hello turkey

1:48am Alina
Hi Butt Face!

1:48am Kleber
lol

1:48am Alina
omg

1:48am Kleber
how are you doing dork ?

1:49am Alina
I am pregnant. How are you?

1:49am Kleber
i’m not pregnant but i did pregnant zomeone

1:49am Alina
Whoa! That’s new news, Kleber…
What happened?

1:50am Kleber
i juzt dont remember
whoz the lucky one

1:50am Alina
You’re losing me here…

1:50am Kleber
why ?

1:51am Alina
What do you mean? You “pregnant zomeone”? What happened?!?!?

1:52am Kleber
well zhe’z there and now zoon i’ll be daddy Kleber
could you believe that

1:52am Alina
Is your “s” key broken? You’re going to be a Dad, Kleber???

1:53am Kleber
yeah !!

1:53am Alina
Whoa. My. Mind. Is. Blown.

1:54am Kleber
why ? how long have you been pregnant

1:54am Alina
Why? Well, because you seem like a very strange man. I’ve been pregnant almost 6 months.

1:55am Kleber
omg

1:55am Alina
lol

1:55am Kleber
3 more and you’re done

1:55am Alina
Good math! How about you?

1:55am Kleber
whatz a girl or itz a boy

1:56am Alina
It’s a girl. You need to fix that “s” key.

1:56am Kleber
mine juzt 2 1/2
i’ve got to buy a new keyboard

1:57am Alina
True.
You have a long way to go until babyville, my friend!
Are you excited?

1:58am Kleber
are you kidding

1:58am Alina
No, I am not kidding.

1:59am Kleber
yeah, i’m excited
itz my baby

1:59am Alina
True! Well, I think that’s great. Congratulations.

2:00am Kleber
thank you zo much
Congratulations to you too

2:01am Alina
Hey, your “s” key does work!

2:01am Kleber
no
i’m pazting that onez
copying

2:02am Alina
Haha! I appreciate the effort, Klebes.

2:04am Kleber
no problem my friend

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1:52pm Anil
hello
haw are you

1:53pm Alina
Hello! Me? Well, I’m pregnant and can’t say that I’ve really felt that
well since week 7. Last night I couldn’t sleep at all and had to wake
up in the middle of the night to pee like 8 times. How are you?

1:53pm Anil
thanks
ı am little speak english
ı am turkish
your fan

1:54pm Alina
Got it! Well, thanks right back to you Turkish Fan! You look a little like Che Guevara in your photo.

1:55pm Anil

yes
ı am che guavera fan

1:55pm Alina
I see! Are you planning to take over the Turkish government?

1:56pm
no:D
turkey very good government
okey?

1:58pm Alina
Okay! I can’t disagree really, based on my limited experience with the Turkish government.

1:59pm Anil

you very lovely

2:00pm Alina
My dear Anil Yilmaz Akin, if only you could see me now, in my pajamas, five months pregnant, more than a little constipated…

2:00pm Anil
ooohh
my god

2:01pm Alina
Yes, better I stare at the picture of Che and you stare at the picture of me sitting on my bed and playing electric guitar that was taken 8 years ago.

2:01pm Anil
oooo

pity
see you
alina

2:04pm Alina
Have a great weekend! Eat some künefe for me!

2:04pm Anil
KÜNEFE
?
HAHA

2:05pm Alina
Isn’t that some kind of Turkish dessert? Sorry, I have no idea, actually. I totally just quickly looked up “Turkish Food” on Wikipedia.

2:05pm Anil

okeyyyy

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7:05pm Kleber
guess who came to restaurant today?

7:05pm Alina
Scarlett Johanssen? Obama? Jesus?

7:05pm Kleber
Jesus!! lol you’re crazy
anyway Robin willians yeah the actor i admired when i was a kid

7:06pm Alina
Wow! He’s famous.

7:07pm Kleber
yeah, don’t you know about him

7:07pm Alina
Yeah, course I know about him.

7:07pm Kleber
he’s really nice as a person but when i said hey let me take pic with you, he said NO, now vanish yourself
i was like, speechless

7:08pm Alina
that’s kind of intense, Klebes…

7:09pm Kleber
yeah it was

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7:25pm Kleber
you know what!! here in Times Square people are so freaking weird

7:25pm Alina
listening

7:25pm Kleber
and i mean really weird
Last week this guy stepped up to me with a girl.

7:25pm Alina
and?

7:26pm Kleber
He said that his girlfriend liked me, and wanted me to be with her,

7:26pm Alina
whoa!

7:26pm Kleber
I’m like what?

7:26pm Alina
uh huh

7:27pm Kleber
He continued saying, while your being with her, I’ll be touching her.

7:27pm Alina
WHAT?!?!?

7:27pm Kleber
I’m still like, Whaat?

7:27pm Alina
Then what happened?

7:27pm Kleber
same as you now!!
He just continues, and while I’m touching her, I’ll also be touching you.

7:27pm Alina
OMG!
So of course, you said OK

7:28pm Kleber
Then I started to look around for some cameras because it was just too weird.

7:28pm Alina
Haha

7:28pm Kleber
I mean, I understand when a girl is stepping up to you like that and wants to hook up

7:29pm Alina
Right. That’s normal.

7:29pm Kleber
But a guy coming up like that

7:29pm Alina
So what’d you do?

7:29pm Kleber
and asking you to hook up with his girlfriend. the guy wasn’t really my type!!
so i said NO, way Jose!!!

7:31pm Alina
Wow, Klebes. Good story.

7:33pm Kleber
hey i don’t know but that happened to me last week

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