Make/Work Episode 9: Jon Bernson and Jennifer Welch

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Episode 9 of Make/Work is the second of a sub-series where host Scott Pinkmountain interviews couples in which both partners are artists, addressing some of the unique issues that may arise in those relationships and talking about the challenges and benefits of building a life with someone who’s also engaged in a creative pursuit.

This week, Scott talks with musician Jon Bernson and actor/director Jennifer Welch. Bernson performs mainly with his groups THEMAYS and Exray’s and Welch runs the Tides Theater, located in the heart of Downtown San Francisco’s theater district.

Listen to Episode 9 (and subscribe to Make/Work!) now in iTunes. Or get the direct download. And you can now get Make/Work through Stitcher. We’re that legit.

“I feel like in our relationship, it’s easier to compromise with each other… but with our art we tend to be more uncompromising… As artists, when we’re collaborating, we can really butt heads, we can really struggle with things and we have to find a way through it… Working through that stuff as artists makes our relationship stronger.” —Bernson

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“You have to be comfortable being fluid. That’s the key. When you’re with another artist and things are taking shape and you’re in and out of projects, you’ve got to be able to shift priorities and support, and know that it’s going to come back around. And you have to be able to follow through on that. If you take a lot of time and energy, then you have to remember, I have to reinvest the time and energy that I took, and put it back into the relationship.” —Welch

Every creative laborer has a different story to tell about how they negotiate their relationship between their creative work and their paycheck and how they balance their lives to sustain their creative practice. In Make/Work, Scott will speak with emerging and established artists working in a wide range of creative mediums about how they survive, how they make a living, and how they maintain their work over the long term. New episodes will be released every other Thursday.


Scott Pinkmountain is a writer and musician living in California. He is the creator and host of The History Channeler comedy podcast and has written for This American Life, A Public Space, HTMLGIANT, and other publications. He has also released dozens of albums of both instrumental music and songs including the recent No Country Music. He can be found at http://www.scottpinkmountain.com/. More from this author →