Make/Work Episode 18: Lisa Ward

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In Episode 18 of Make/Work, host Scott Pinkmountain speaks with artist and architect Lisa Ward. Ward also has an extensive background in theater, and speaks about her work with the Brooklyn Pageant Project bringing performances to the streets of New York on a wagon that folded out into a theater.

When Scott spoke to Ward, she had recently lost her full time job as an architect somewhat out of the blue. She has carpentry and building skills to fall back on, but rather than diving right back into something, she was savoring the uncertainty and the open space that being fired had created in her life.

Something that terrified me about the 9-to-5 was that time would move so fast in a way. You’d spend all week waiting for the weekend. You’d have all these things that you’d want to jam into these two days and it would make it so that a month would go by so quickly. And I realized that your whole life could be gone… It scared the shit out of me.

Ward and her collaborator Jim Kanter

Listen to Episode 18 (and subscribe to Make/Work!) now in iTunes. Or get the direct download. And you can now get Make/Work through Stitcher.

Every creative laborer has a different story to tell about how they negotiate their relationship between their creative work and their paycheck and how they balance their lives to sustain their creative practice. In Make/Work, Scott will speak with emerging and established artists working in a wide range of creative mediums about how they survive, how they make a living, and how they maintain their work over the long term. New episodes will be released every other Thursday.


Scott Pinkmountain is a writer and musician living in California. He is the creator and host of The History Channeler comedy podcast and has written for This American Life, A Public Space, HTMLGIANT, and other publications. He has also released dozens of albums of both instrumental music and songs including the recent No Country Music. He can be found at http://www.scottpinkmountain.com/. More from this author →