If you want to know what the effect that book has had on me, that’s the effect. I don’t care if you think I’m an angry black woman. I don’t care if you think I’m making you feel uncomfortable. I feel better. And that is important to me.

Claudia Rankine met up with Bim Adewunmi to discuss the well-acclaimed Citizen, and what a conversation it was. Full of insight from both the interviewer and the interviewee, they journey through topics ranging from Serena Williams to microaggressions to the white liberal space with a dazzling clarity and intelligence.