Terry Gross and the Art of Shutting Down

I never thought I’d wish for a trigger warning until this week, when this long and loving NYT profile of Terry Gross appeared and, with marksman-like aim, shot me back to a day that lives on in infamy, if only in my own head. And, sadly, somewhere deep in the Fresh Air archives.

Back in 2012 I had the remarkable opportunity to be interviewed by Terry Gross and… it was a complete disaster. Months later Zoe and I unpacked the experience here at the Rumpus. But this week, reading the NYT piece I was struck by how much Gross’s m.o., as recounted by writer Susan Burton, is true to my experience to the letter, from Gross’s self-effacing introduction (“Hi, I’m Terry”) to her instructions on how to proceed if things get too personal.

When I had my failed interview, however, I longed for a touch of that much-lauded empathy to manifest itself off the record. I remember vividly—as I groped for words and flop sweat soaked my shirt—wishing that we could take a true break. Wishing that Terry Gross would say, “Hey, hold on a second. This isn’t going well; you seem very nervous. What’s up? Are you okay?” Things might have turned out differently. But she didn’t. Instead, those long pauses that so many observers credit with fostering intimacy, and creating a feeling of safety, only served for some reason to shut me down.

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One response

  1. I’m sorry that you had a bad experience with Gross. As for me, I gave up on giving her any credibility (after nearly writing her off after her offensive interviews with Richard Pryor and Steven Tyler) on the day she asked writer Hilary Mantel if being “fat” had changed her writing. In fact, the only good thing that came out of that interview by Gross is that it inspired me to interview a whole bunch of writers who are women and found out that Gross is just one example of the horrible questions that women writers get asked by interviewers.

    Thanks for being a voice against the love story going on over at the NYT.

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