Wait, he’s not done yet. Franzen talks birds, climate change, and religion with Salon:
I think more broadly, there has been a general trend in the environmental movement over the last couple of decades to try to learn to speak the language of economics and capitalism and human values, things like ecosystem services. I’m not sanguine about the success of that approach, because if you just suddenly decide, well, yeah, this ecosystem is providing some services, but it’s not providing enough, and the golf course and resort we’d like to build there will provide better economic services.